If you have saved images or conversations with the anthony_shots profile, please attach them to your email, the release said. Thanks for your time. They want to keep him in the dark. His brother looks very much like him (for example! Too fucking bad. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. And my ban appeal didnt work either. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Etc. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. We . Could it that the killers were middle aged men, DP and not sure yet, maybe FSG but both dressed exact same so people would be confused? Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter, handicrafting wooden signs. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. There was posing. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. I cant demand that my friends give me money! With Skip and Faceman's theory, this is starting to make sense. He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. Would love to join the private group. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. 43 seconds of audio. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Kim Riley discusses the sketch released Monday of a man believed to be connected to murder of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in February in Delphi, Indiana. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on a plant there. Lists a factory as place of residence. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. One question: I havent seen this anywhere but have the police questioned Mr. X about the murders? No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. Thanks Dee. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Forget it. Oh, one more thing, Jim. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. On April 19, 2021 42-year-old James Brian Chadwell II told a 9-year-old girl in his neighborhood that she could play with his dog. I've been unsuccessful trying to figure it out. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. Everyone directly or indirectly referred to is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Give it a rest, dammit! Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. I guess he cant make up his mind. One last side note.. Nic stated in the podcast that Indiana collects DNA for all individuals convicted of a felony but it's actually anyone arrested for a felony, which is a much lower threshold. Obwohl das organisierte Verbrecherthum" Footnote 2 bereits 1877 bei der Beratung zur Strafprozessordnung Erwhnung fand und die sogenannten Ringvereine ber mehrere Jahrzehnte fester Bestandteil der Gesellschaft waren, die nach heutigem Verstndnis Kriterien Organisierter Kriminalitt erfllen, setzte der Diskurs ber derartige Zusammenschlsse erst in den 1970er-Jahren in . Both my gut instinct and logic are screaming, Verify the statements of FSG!! I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. The fact that the mere mention of FSG as anything more than a helpful old man out for a daily stroll is met with such hostility well, that raises all sorts of red flags with me even if the vitriol is coming from true crime enthusiasts on Reddit. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. Do you believe your POI acted alone to abduct and eventually kill the girls? The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. Clown. I did not delete the post; which means skipjansen did it. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. (WISH) News 8 has learned hundreds of tips have come in to authorities about a social media profile that may be connected to the 2017 Delphi murders of two teens. No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? I don't mean to offend anyone but I just see a lot of dismissive comments towards theories or suggestions in favor of ones that are just as presumptive and/or rediculous. Would you be willing to provide to me? C'mon now. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. Answers to questions about my credibility. Stop. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Also, I dont know what to make of this. Tell her I said HAVE A NICE DAY! Little if any good information comes out of these places. Hes also thoroughly lawyered up, and hes not saying a word. So I have no idea who Skip is but those are my thoughts on LE connection. Got it? DP's appearance is a cross between the two sketches. Are they deliberately lying to us? One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. Merch: https://www.behindthecrimedoor.shop/Donate to My PayPal: https://paypal.me/behindthecrimedoorMy Website: https://behindthecrimedoor.webador.com/Buy Me A Tea: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/KristinTBTCD Community Guidelines. ago. I will. Stupid, stupid, stupid. He's former military and former LE. I dont know, FIELDS! . I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. His phone records could be subpoenaed. On the photo of BG on the bridge, does anyone else see handcuffs instead of camera/knife bag? White scarf covering the lower half of his face. Also we dont know what they interrogated Ron about either. ***************Tip Line: 735-822-3535Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comBehind The Crime Door Intro courtesy of:Graphics done by: Grizzmaticly Clever Music by: Techdeath Hippie https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyOgSong: The RequiemTip Line: 844-459-5786 Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com Is he into numerology? We have your fingerprints on the counter.. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. The catfishing situation is not what we think. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. The guys and Skip talked about DPs place within the timeline on the day of the murders, went into some details about his role in regards to a supposed "couple arguing" under the bridge within minutes of the time of the murders, and the woman involved in his alleged alibi. Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. Of course they would look for that. If so, why? Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. Shes also written a book and is aware of my coverage. Thats very embarrassing. I actually looked into the possibility that DP could be covering for someone. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? If it was Abbys phone this would imply she had a phone, he somehow got her number, he connected to a cell tower to send media, and then he took the phone. I would like to email this , as it is not particularly relevant to the comments on this page. Are there any screenshots of these alleged changing stories from DP, Cheyenne, and others discussed in this podcast? Good question Jess. LE doesnt like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. Dec. 6, 2021 Police seek help to identify the creator of a social media account for anthony_shots.. If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. It was all over by 3:30 PM. I believe that came from the leaked DE texts, and I would really like to know if that has ever been confirmed by anyone in LE. You cannot keep your own story straight. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Thank you Mr. Lindsay for significant information on this terrible case. DP placed himself at the scene, has changed his story and lied to LE. The 10-mile Delphi Historic Trails system is comprised of eight miles of urban "street" trails. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. DELPHI, IN - It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. But no, that was not the case. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. I may have questions, but that would be the extent.. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. If the sketch depicting an older suspect truly came from DP attempting to misdirect the investigation, it's very interesting that it bears such a strong resemblance to his father. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. LE still has access to the conviction. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. The rest are guardians. Kelsi has been cleared. Kline was not arrested until more than three years later. In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13. Suspect arrives before 2pm and cheats on his girlfriend in the car and then goes walking across the bridge with her and into the trails. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? What it does do, however, is make LE appear to be slightly less incompetent for calling off that search if Abby and Libby were confirmed to have been deceased before the search even started. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? I think what you meant to say is that the Supreme Court ruled that if the police lie to a suspect during an interrogation, his eventual admission of guilt can be considered by the jury. You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! The only crime on Mr. Xs record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. Same spelling as well. I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. Make I think that the killer was very familiar with someone in the family somewhere. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Also to True Crime Garage. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? I guess one thought about the cops searching for videos, and I dont know the specific wording but could it be they are looking for businesses or residences that have security cameras? It could explain why there was such a drastic image change of BG from first sketch to second one. 2-13 again. We believe that those reactions were overblown. This KAK guy simply got messed up in sending sexual videos to underage teenage girls and collecting the same from them. Until then, the enemies will keep attacking. Alex Murdaugh Takes the Stand in His Own Murder Trial: "I Did Lie",All the highlights from Alex Murdaugh's testimony when he took the stand as a witness in his own murder trial, including lying about his alibi. Great to see you back on the case! Theres only one parent. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. I hav followed both cases very closely. You do a great job! The motive was sexual. Must be a lot of people with that name. Long, 22 pages. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. 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